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	<title>Comments on: Ubuntu, Emacs, and Fonts</title>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://avdi.org/devblog/2009/04/09/ubuntu-emacs-and-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-939</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 03:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must&#039;ve offended her. ;-)</description>
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		<title>By: Avdi Grimm</title>
		<link>http://avdi.org/devblog/2009/04/09/ubuntu-emacs-and-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-938</link>
		<dc:creator>Avdi Grimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so I just now tried again and I saw that nice GTK font dialog come up.  I don&#039;t know what changed.  That&#039;s just bizarre.  I think Emacs is trying to mess with my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so I just now tried again and I saw that nice GTK font dialog come up.  I don&#39;t know what changed.  That&#39;s just bizarre.  I think Emacs is trying to mess with my head.</p>
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		<title>By: Avdi Grimm</title>
		<link>http://avdi.org/devblog/2009/04/09/ubuntu-emacs-and-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-940</link>
		<dc:creator>Avdi Grimm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 01:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know, now that you mention it, I distinctly recall getting that nice GTK font selector in the past.  It&#039;s like my snapshot has regressed or something.  Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know, now that you mention it, I distinctly recall getting that nice GTK font selector in the past.  It&#39;s like my snapshot has regressed or something.  Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://avdi.org/devblog/2009/04/09/ubuntu-emacs-and-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 22:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! Sorry about that - I&#039;m not using Ubuntu myself so I linked to the PPA in case the repository wasn&#039;t as up to date. But I had no idea you were using Emacs 23 anyway! The description of your troubles and your instructions had me convinced you must&#039;ve been running an old 22 xft or 23 unicode build at best. There is something odd going on here - look how different my Emacs cvs build is:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6638/screenshotemacs.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6638/screens...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When I clicked “Set Default Font” in that “Options” menu, that font dialog appeared (as it does for per-buffer font setting with S-down-mouse-1). If I chose a default font from there and then clicked on “Save Options”, it would put a default font face spec in my .emacs (I don&#039;t actually do it that way myself: I prefer to use CL arguments or .Xdefaults/.Xresources).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can specify fonts with either GTK or fontconfig syntax, easily set fonts or increase/decrease font size per-buffer etc. and Emacs 23 font handling in general seems to me to be better than any other apps I use now so I&#039;m disappointed that your snapshot - which does seem to be different - isn&#039; t working so well for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! Sorry about that &#8211; I&#39;m not using Ubuntu myself so I linked to the PPA in case the repository wasn&#39;t as up to date. But I had no idea you were using Emacs 23 anyway! The description of your troubles and your instructions had me convinced you must&#39;ve been running an old 22 xft or 23 unicode build at best. There is something odd going on here &#8211; look how different my Emacs cvs build is:</p>
<p><a href="http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6638/screenshotemacs.png" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6638/screens.." rel="nofollow">http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6638/screens..</a>.</p>
<p>When I clicked “Set Default Font” in that “Options” menu, that font dialog appeared (as it does for per-buffer font setting with S-down-mouse-1). If I chose a default font from there and then clicked on “Save Options”, it would put a default font face spec in my .emacs (I don&#39;t actually do it that way myself: I prefer to use CL arguments or .Xdefaults/.Xresources).</p>
<p>You can specify fonts with either GTK or fontconfig syntax, easily set fonts or increase/decrease font size per-buffer etc. and Emacs 23 font handling in general seems to me to be better than any other apps I use now so I&#39;m disappointed that your snapshot &#8211; which does seem to be different &#8211; isn&#39; t working so well for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://avdi.org/devblog/2009/04/09/ubuntu-emacs-and-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-627</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must&#039;ve offended her. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must&#39;ve offended her. <img src='http://avdi.org/devblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: avdi</title>
		<link>http://avdi.org/devblog/2009/04/09/ubuntu-emacs-and-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-626</link>
		<dc:creator>avdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, so I just now tried again and I saw that nice GTK font dialog come up.  I don&#039;t know what changed.  That&#039;s just bizarre.  I think Emacs is trying to mess with my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so I just now tried again and I saw that nice GTK font dialog come up.  I don&#39;t know what changed.  That&#39;s just bizarre.  I think Emacs is trying to mess with my head.</p>
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		<title>By: avdi</title>
		<link>http://avdi.org/devblog/2009/04/09/ubuntu-emacs-and-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator>avdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know, now that you mention it, I distinctly recall getting that nice GTK font selector in the past.  It&#039;s like my snapshot has regressed or something.  Weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know, now that you mention it, I distinctly recall getting that nice GTK font selector in the past.  It&#39;s like my snapshot has regressed or something.  Weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://avdi.org/devblog/2009/04/09/ubuntu-emacs-and-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-624</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh! Sorry about that - I&#039;m not using Ubuntu myself so I linked to the PPA in case the repository wasn&#039;t as up to date. But I had no idea you were using Emacs 23 anyway! The description of your troubles and your instructions had me convinced you must&#039;ve been running an old 22 xft or 23 unicode build at best. There is something odd going on here - look how different my Emacs cvs build is:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6638/screenshotemacs.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6638/screens...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When I clicked “Set Default Font” in that “Options” menu, that font dialog appeared (as it does for per-buffer font setting with S-down-mouse-1). If I chose a default font from there and then clicked on “Save Options”, it would put a default font face spec in my .emacs (I don&#039;t actually do it that way myself: I prefer to use CL arguments or .Xdefaults/.Xresources).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can specify fonts with either GTK or fontconfig syntax, easily set fonts or increase/decrease font size per-buffer etc. and Emacs 23 font handling in general seems to me to be better than any other apps I use now so I&#039;m disappointed that your snapshot - which does seem to be different - isn&#039; t working so well for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh! Sorry about that &#8211; I&#39;m not using Ubuntu myself so I linked to the PPA in case the repository wasn&#39;t as up to date. But I had no idea you were using Emacs 23 anyway! The description of your troubles and your instructions had me convinced you must&#39;ve been running an old 22 xft or 23 unicode build at best. There is something odd going on here &#8211; look how different my Emacs cvs build is:</p>
<p><a href="http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6638/screenshotemacs.png" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6638/screens.." rel="nofollow">http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6638/screens..</a>.</p>
<p>When I clicked “Set Default Font” in that “Options” menu, that font dialog appeared (as it does for per-buffer font setting with S-down-mouse-1). If I chose a default font from there and then clicked on “Save Options”, it would put a default font face spec in my .emacs (I don&#39;t actually do it that way myself: I prefer to use CL arguments or .Xdefaults/.Xresources).</p>
<p>You can specify fonts with either GTK or fontconfig syntax, easily set fonts or increase/decrease font size per-buffer etc. and Emacs 23 font handling in general seems to me to be better than any other apps I use now so I&#39;m disappointed that your snapshot &#8211; which does seem to be different &#8211; isn&#39; t working so well for you.</p>
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		<title>By: avdi</title>
		<link>http://avdi.org/devblog/2009/04/09/ubuntu-emacs-and-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator>avdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Paul, but I&#039;m actually using Emacs 23 already (You don&#039;t need a PPA for Emacs 23; just install the emacs-snapshot packages).  The above instructions are for Emacs 23.  Emacs 22 is simply a lost cause when it comes to fonts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Paul, but I&#39;m actually using Emacs 23 already (You don&#39;t need a PPA for Emacs 23; just install the emacs-snapshot packages).  The above instructions are for Emacs 23.  Emacs 22 is simply a lost cause when it comes to fonts.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://avdi.org/devblog/2009/04/09/ubuntu-emacs-and-fonts/comment-page-1/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are Emacs 23 cvs snapshots available for Ubuntu: &lt;a href=&quot;https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa&lt;/a&gt;  Emacs 23 is a *dramatic* improvement font-wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are Emacs 23 cvs snapshots available for Ubuntu: <a href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa" rel="nofollow">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa</a>  Emacs 23 is a *dramatic* improvement font-wise.</p>
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